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Re: Paranoia Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 1:42 am
by VysePresident
@Irina - RIP mate. Look forward to playing with you next time, hopefully!

@Fen/Cactus/Kermit - Yeah, if there are six canonical roles (Assuming I understood Fen correctly) I wouldn't take doubling too seriously. It would explain why Murder was so comfortable with any number of players. Doubling solves flavor in a large game nicely.

That said, safeclaims are a thing. Including roles isn't as common as flavor, but it's a potential balancing option in games with heavily restricted flavor. (If we're actually doubling up on flavor, then I'd argue that having safe roles is much more likely.) I'm spitballing here, to be honest, but it's food for thought.

The main thing is that, while I've done some serious thinking (and mandatory random paranoia/second-guessing.) the math still works against him. I keep coming back to this every time. I'm going to double down on this, I really think he should be our lynch today. If there are two scum remaining,we can potentially lose right NOW just by mislynching. (Math: 2 scum versus 4 Town. Town mislynch + Town NK = scum win. It's possible something saves us, but it's still a serious risk.)

Taking a random shot on an inactive versus netting a more likely scum player seems like a really, really bad idea.

@Fen - To be fair, I'm using my take on Murder to support what I already believe anyway. Not all thoughts are equally valid. It's more just useful food for thought than proof. I have one major reason I'm convinced.

Re: Paranoia Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 1:54 am
by Fenris
i dont know if i should be addressing the elephant in the room here or not :^)

Re: Paranoia Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:10 am
by VysePresident
@Fen - Kinda feeling tired and dense, so sure, please.

Re: Paranoia Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:14 am
by Fenris
Irina Ivanov wrote: Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:20 am I've been busy, so Cactus had to work all by himself.

Re: Paranoia Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:46 am
by VysePresident
I just assumed they knew each other IRL and I was out of the loop.

If not...ouch. :/

Re: Paranoia Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:53 am
by Fenris
not as far as i'm aware, no

i feel bad bc this def isn't your fault, dodd, but i can't unread what's been read.

gonna need an explanation here

Re: Paranoia Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:01 am
by Cactus
eh, not a huge deal. amid my fairly convoluted role is a description that Irina and I were masons and could communicate in the night phase.

She never showed up.

Looks bad, but it isn't.

Re: Paranoia Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:06 am
by Kermit
Christ can we just stop beating around the fucking bush here and acknowledge that all of us know what's up with this game and stop acting like there hasn't been a huge bright red fuckin elephant in the middle of the room ever since Irena got lynched.

Re: Paranoia Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:06 am
by Kermit
IM SLEEP DEPRIVED AND IRRITABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FEAR MY WRATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Paranoia Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:09 am
by Cactus
O_O

Re: Paranoia Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:30 am
by Fenris
im very afraid.

also no offense dodd but that's a weakass excuse at this point. there was absolutely no reason to hide that when you roleclaimed since with irina dead it's of no use to you anymore.

kermit i have slept for three hours in the last 28 so im gonna need a little help w/ whatever it is you're talking about

Re: Paranoia Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:33 am
by Kermit
Adam you're literally the only person here I actually trust right now because I know your teammate is dead so you don't have any motive to back up someone who's spewing bullshit.

Re: Paranoia Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:35 am
by Kermit
kermit i have slept for three hours in the last 28 so im gonna need a little help w/ whatever it is you're talking about
the colour is a hint!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What is red and showed up when Irena died!?!?!??!?!?!?!

Re: Paranoia Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:37 am
by VysePresident
This is a Town of one.

Dodd being scum AND Kermit being scum AND Irina being scum is silly.

Yet Irina is very likely scum, thus Dodd is scum, and yet Kermit is still scum.

Maybe Kermit is lyncher.

Kermit's been hinting at multiple mafias. He knows and just wants to burn it to the ground.

Three nightkills? Haha no problem, this was never a serious game. Everyone is scum.

Fenris leans Town because of current play, but that's easy to do when you're actually freaking hunting other scum.

Boogie was Town though - he sounded Town (and I feel like I've got a good grip on him) and he got targeted multiple times. He's probably legit.

Wait, I'm Town, so someone would have been without a partner. Maybe he was an SK. Maybe he was just actual Town.

But maybe all the flips have been legit so far. Maybe that's what Murder meant when he said that Green was above everyone's clearance level.

Holy frick, I'm the only one with a different clearance level. Orange.

This is amazing.

I'm not even mad if this is true. I'm sad about the effort, but it's actually hilarious.

Re: Paranoia Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:40 am
by VysePresident
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AHAHAHAHAHAHAH

AHAHA

AHAH

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Goshdarnit Murder.

Town role is green. Nobody has a security clearance of green. My bloody PM was in orange. VYSE-O-RUL You guys are all scum.