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Re: XCOM 2: War of the Chosen Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:32 pm
by Latin For Dragula
Fen's flip doesn't give us much unfortunately. They were p quiet on matters other than Cactus.

With Jace I still feel like he's a frustrated newb who thought he wasn't a newb anymore. There's some info in day one that has me pretty sure Yugi and Jace are both town or both scum beyond the coaching.

Slam comes out looking more Town to me. Knowing how Cactus would flip I think he'd make more of a show of being against the lunch after the policy argument if he was scum. For that same reason MW comes up looking more scum to me.

Re: XCOM 2: War of the Chosen Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:34 pm
by dmboogie
Jace wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:17 pm It affects the suspicion I had about paige because I townread her for pushing Scum!Cactus like me before I was revealed to be wrong. She is iirc the only person besides me who voted him before it became a discussion of policy lynch.
(they/them pronouns for paige)

Re: XCOM 2: War of the Chosen Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:34 pm
by Jace
dmboogie wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:34 pm
Jace wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:17 pm It affects the suspicion I had about paige because I townread her for pushing Scum!Cactus like me before I was revealed to be wrong. She is iirc the only person besides me who voted him before it became a discussion of policy lynch.
(they/them pronouns for paige)
Oh, sorry Paige!

Re: XCOM 2: War of the Chosen Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:35 pm
by Grand Moff Hissa
Jace wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:17 pmRicky is slightly affected because he was one of the view that lynched Dodd's spot for reasons of suspicion not policy.
Can I get a quick take on how this is affected? I actually have a personal thought but I wanna see if we line up first.

Re: XCOM 2: War of the Chosen Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:36 pm
by Latin For Dragula
I also use she/her and xe/xir it's cool

Re: XCOM 2: War of the Chosen Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:37 pm
by Grand Moff Hissa
Ten points to Gryffindor Blizzard.

Blizzard's actions here read like someone sorta figuring out and putting into play the meta, but not in a way that feels coached--she's working things out and taking some stabs and I like that.

Re: XCOM 2: War of the Chosen Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:38 pm
by dmboogie
Emprexx Plush wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:36 pm I also use she/her and xe/xir it's cool
oh noted!

Re: XCOM 2: War of the Chosen Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:41 pm
by BlizzardeyeWonder
At posts #312 and #313 in the readback, and they kind of feed into my (current) belief that Jace is just inexperienced town, with the impression that it's normal to suspect everyone in a Mafia game. I get why a newbie would think that, the whole "uninformed majority" thing is kinda the point of Mafia, but like, it's not a very productive mindset imo? The majority of people in the game, at least at the start, are town, so while that thinking can theoretically spot scum behaviour earlier and nip it in the bud, I think in practice it leads to town being lynched for looking scummy. Then again this is me theorycrafting a bit here, and I'm hardly a mafia veteran, so take said theorycrafting with a grain of salt. Continuing read through.

Re: XCOM 2: War of the Chosen Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:42 pm
by Zetsu
@Paige, any preferred lynches atm?

Re: XCOM 2: War of the Chosen Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:45 pm
by BlizzardeyeWonder
Side-eyeing the "I don't want to get lynched a) because I'm town and b) because I want to keep playing but oh I'm gonna get lynched anyway and I've made my peace with that" thing Jace's posts day one have. The b-point combined with the resignation comes across as a tad manipulative to me.

Re: XCOM 2: War of the Chosen Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:46 pm
by Jace
MurderWeasel wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:35 pm
Jace wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:17 pmRicky is slightly affected because he was one of the view that lynched Dodd's spot for reasons of suspicion not policy.
Can I get a quick take on how this is affected? I actually have a personal thought but I wanna see if we line up first.
My noobiness is shining now bc I don't know what your thought process is, because what I mean is I read Ricky slightly more as scum for the same reason you guys would see me as scum - because he was one of the only ones that supported lynching Cactus for real reasons.

Re: XCOM 2: War of the Chosen Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:48 pm
by BlizzardeyeWonder
Finished iso and am now experiencing the "joy" of playing the "is it scum behaviour or newbie behaviour" game. Will take some time to think over it all some more.

Re: XCOM 2: War of the Chosen Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:51 pm
by Jace
BlizzardeyeWonder wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:45 pm Side-eyeing the "I don't want to get lynched a) because I'm town and b) because I want to keep playing but oh I'm gonna get lynched anyway and I've made my peace with that" thing Jace's posts day one have. The b-point combined with the resignation comes across as a tad manipulative to me.
Yea this was certainly the incorrect strategy but for all intents and purposes this is basically my first game bc last game I was so in and out any post I made was just mindlessly riding waves until the end when it was down to just a few of us, so even if I can read behavior, I still don't understand most of this game or its rules. I do fr not wanna get lynched though, that was the truth. My resignation was clearly nonproductive and scummy looking tho so I'm just gonna keep playing.

Like I've said before, I a) didn't know that VT was considered so expendable that I'd likely get voted even if I wasn't seen 100% as scum and if I had I wouldn't have revealed it, and b) I expected a giant dogpile the second this day phase started back up so now that I know we're not quite there yet, I'd rather just go back to playing the game. I hope the day I get assigned a scum role my play isn't this horrible lol

Re: XCOM 2: War of the Chosen Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:04 pm
by Slam
did we have to do 25 pages for day 1 guys geez

Re: XCOM 2: War of the Chosen Mafia Game Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:12 pm
by Latin For Dragula
Slam wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:04 pm did we have to do 25 pages for day 1 guys geez
Rookie numbers tbh