Survival Of The Fittest

EBWOP: "Probably," self? He's the innocent child. I didn't check my phrasing, oops. XD

Gianni, innocent? Ironic design .

Also I'd like to ask MW for some clarifications regarding his feelings towards me. "He made points I agree with but that is a suspicious" is a bit of an odd take understand here

I am very innocent!

I also drank way too much coffee today so gave myself stomach aches

See? He's so much an innocent kid he doesn't know that coffee is for adults and that you shouldn't drink a huge amount. ):

The current vote total is as follows:

Deamon - 1 (MurderWeasel)

Approximately 3 days remain. 14 alive means 8 to lynch. What else is there to say?

Alright, back to business. I may as well push something forward.

VOTE: DEAMON

I've already outlined my reasons here, but the gist is:
1. Deamon has been barely active.
2. When he does say something, it's... weirdly defensive and confrontational.
3. He's kinda-sorta defended other scummy people, including Poly (who is now confirmed to be scum).

I don't know if making a full push is the best choice, but dang it, we need something to happen. I agree with Toben when he says:

Deamon: Quiet... too quiet. So Deamon's laid kinda low this phase, but his contributions so far have been softly defending sketch folks (notably Poly) and pointing at some sorta askance Scum thought processes. All this without a legitimate vote or even a fully expressed opinion on any of the major wagons! Hmm...

So, think at least a poking is in order?

nothing is happening, so at least this is something

vote: deamon

i know im part of the problem re: not saying much, so i promise to get some lengthy reads up before the day phase is over, but for the time being i might as well help push this boulder uphill, y'know

Looking back at Deamon's posts, I got to agree with the scumreads given so far. Having defended Poly pushes him further into potential scum territory for sure, though he could also be confused Town. That seems a bit unlikely though- and his posts did strike me as a bit defensive when I first saw them, at least I think I'm remembering that

At the very least the pressure's on and we can get some responses.

VOTE: Deamon

Mafia, where even your memories are out to betray you~!

I think Deamon's just busy and has been planning a vacation in chat. He hasn't posted at all in this game in over a week now. I find it very curious in MW's reads that Grim, who has slightly less activity than Deamon and a similar non-commital record this game but is actively posting this phase, gets a town read without further questioning. Especially when at least iiirc Deamon has a history of not playing ball with this slowly turning up the heat kind of pressure.

If Dea comes back and folds with some saucy information i'm open to biting but I don't think this tactic works on him, I don't think he's a good lynch on the case given, and I think there are way more scummy people to be looked at. Namely Riki and Grim. Both are conveniently absent from Poly lynch with excuses; Riki starts the Blast train when town has no momentum which feels like a potential scum power seizure. Grim plays treacherous vizier trying to get a bunch of other trains going between me, Cactus, and Deamon but wants other people to make the first move. Before that he also rides the Blast train. Don't like the look on either of them.

I don't think MW is scummy for the Dea push though, feels very in keeping with what I expect from him. There are better targets if he's scum looking for an easy lynch and there's some good town info in this play.

Hey someone wanna refresh ya girl on where Deamon defends Poly cuz like...he doesn't? Looking at his ISO he calls out someone, i'm on phone and too lazy to figure out who, for saying Poly lead the MethSlaw lynch when Poly was actually actively defending him. Which is a pretty good fukn point now that we know Poly is scum.

Yeah, I'm on board on this. I went huh on the combativenesss via Deamon.

Full disclosure - I'm drunk and out and about (someone remind me of this tomorrow).

Vote: deamon

I don't know what to believe really anymore because I kind of fell out of this game a little headspace wise on Day 2 and haven't really gotten back to where I was before that, but the reasoning for a Deamon train seems pretty sound when it's kept just within the game. Like, when I pushed that line of questioning on him he didn't really try to actually explain himself (the "sorry Dad" bit that MW highlighted) and that was a bit suspicious. And it's true he hasn't been active and he's been laying low and I don't know why but that doesn't strike me as very Deamon w/r/t his personality not necessarily his mafia playstyle because I don't personally have enough data on that BUT if what Plush says about him planning a vacation is true then I guess I can handwave it a little.

We still have a bit of time left in this dayphase and I don't want to lock into something yet so I'd rather chase the Riki and Grim threads because there's probably some information to gather there and these people are more likely to respond to questioning and maybe give up some "saucy information" to borrow a phrase from Plush that makes them more Sus, rather than Dea, who I feel is generally less likely to give anything up because he's less likely to speak generally. I'm basically waffling here on what to do because I don't actually know what to do. If we hit the last day and nothing else has happened I'll jump on the Deamon train so we get a lynch.

Gonna level with y'all, I think you guys have a low bar for combativeness.

Deamon wrote: ↑Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:23 pm Gonna level with y'all, I think you guys have a low bar for combativeness.

me@this entire game

While I'm not eager to stand up for Deamon (and am fully cognizant that their flip could damn me even further in some people's eyes), given I have basically no reads on anyone right now, I'm not wild about how quickly this train seems to be forming on so little info? We've got a little time, we can afford to investigate our options. I'm still working on reworked reads post talking about my thoughts. In my own defense though, I hopped off the blast train before it lost steam: you can't accuse me of trying to screw blast unless you're accusing me of a larger gambit, such as buying the claim and wanting to use a mafia NK on them instead.