Survival Of The Fittest

ricky's playing civ v so while hes occupied:

kermit: 2 (zetsu, boogie)
boogie: 2 (slam, deamon)
gianni: 1 (irina)

im eating and then going straight to work cause i slept all day but ill try to get some analysis in between jobs

u cannot convince me to vote for boogie but tbh voting for kermit and then all agreeing to lynch ricky if he's actually a jester is like, appealing

fine you wanted onions well good thing im an onion farmer.

disorganized thoughts:


-I feel like the suggestion of 'lynch someone who isnt kermit and then vig nightkill kermit' is sus as fuck since if the lynch hits town, scum get rid of three (3) town peeps (fun fact scum have a nightkill as is the case in literally every mafia game ever). Either lynch me kermit, or not me kermit. Having the vig take a shot in the dark is 2 risky 4 me.


-deamon puts pressure on boogie. Boogie posts a million times and tries to divert the spotlight to me kermit (hello). Bad look.


-it feels like this whole game fen's been putting a lot of effort into looking town and that's generally something that sets off alarmbells for me


-jace is still giving me newbie town vibes. Irena's giving me nullvibes.


-i too can quote out-of-context posts to build a narrative:

boobie wrote:what you are witnessing now is the ultimate white noise evolution of my brand

because it’s easier to stop myself from lurking if I just post literally anything that comes to mind

...

I have the second most posts in the game. I'm not lurking.

i mean sure you can call me a white noise poster if you want but words have meaning yknow

-okay also

also boobie wrote:Are you less concerned about making a logically sound and more looking for something that town can get behind?

he says before making a case against me kermit (straight-up im an easy lynch let's be real) that's only argument is the ol' Appeal to Ignorance Fallacy


-slam's giving me nulltown vibes. Same w/ zetsu. Dodd's null. Gianni's also null.


-fen im not as clever as you think i am


-kinda hard to defend against jace and zetsu since jace's argument is pretty much "he's kermit therefore when he's memeing he's evil and therefore when he's not memeing he's also evil" and zetsu's is just making an implication and i aint sure what that implication is


-where is yugi


-in conclusion lynch me or boogie; i prefer boogie because he's not me. If the lynchee gets a townflip, the vig (if there even is one) shouldn't kill anyone during the night unless they're sure beyond a reasonable doubt that they're hitting scum. If the lynchee flips scum, go for it i guess iunno. In conclusion of the conclusion, vote:boogie

i’m gonna dab on boogies corpse

Kermit wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:34 pm -deamon puts pressure on boogie. Boogie posts a million times and tries to divert the spotlight to me kermit (hello). Bad look.

of course i'm trying to divert the spotlight. i'm town, and i know that me being lunched will hurt town, and thus i need to avoid this. the best way to avoid being lunched is to give people an actual reason to vote for someone else. this is townplay 101

VOTE: Kermit

in case i dont have time later. its 6 to lynch so 3 votes should be a reasonably comfortable margin to not lynch anyone in the next six hours dont be assholes pls i wanna talk more

Kermit wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:34 pm
-i too can quote out-of-context posts to build a narrative:

what do you mean, out of context? I snipped everything you had to say about Poly. It doesn't matter what you were reacting to in-thread, because I was analyzing what you had to say about your previous posts, about Poly, and it didn't add up.

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devilmafiaboogie wrote:of course i'm trying to divert the spotlight. i'm town, and i know that me being lunched will hurt town, and thus i need to avoid this. the best way to avoid being lunched is to give people an actual reason to vote for someone else. this is townplay 101

alternative perspective: "of course i'm trying to divert the spotlight. i'm scum, and i know that me being lunched will hurt scum, and thus i need to avoid this. the best way to avoid being lunched is to give people an actual reason to vote for someone else. this is scumplay 101"

anyways valid point i take that one specific piece back since yeah it's what you'd do if you were town and what you'd do if you were scum


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Aesop Rock fan mr. dm boogie wrote:what do you mean, out of context? I snipped everything you had to say about Poly. It doesn't matter what you were reacting to in-thread,

you answered your own question there fam

Kermit wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:54 pm you answered your own question there fam

it was out of context but the context doesn't matter when i'm talking strictly about the content of your own posts, that you are talking about

you said that you were feeling iffy about the poly train, thus distancing yourself from blame. but you were the second one to vote for him, and for the duration of the vote you voiced no opinions against it. this is scummy.

there we go *chef kisses* a logical thought process BUT imo as a general rule in life, context is literally never not one of the most important parts of analyzing any situation.

Example with no context: A man walks up to you dressed as a pirate. "Yarr," he yarrs. Based on this information, you can deduce this man is dressed like a pirate.

Example with context 1: A man walks up to you dressed as a pirate. "Yarr," he yarrs. It is the year 1632. You are in Jamaica. Based on this information, you can reasonably assume this man is a pirate.

Example with context 2: A man walks up to you dressed as a pirate. "Yarr," he yarrs. It is the year 2020. You are in San Jose. Based on this information, you can reasonably assume this man is not a pirate (though he is a criminal for breaking the pandemic shelter law!!!!!!)


anyways yeah i didnt voice any opinions against it since i, like i said, was apathetic and also didnt want a no-lynch.

I'm curious to see if the same conclusion can be reached if literally everything in the game is taken into account

sorry yall im taking a sociology class but im getting big macrostructural vs. microinterpretive vibes from this whole argument.

Kermit wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:40 pm there we go *chef kisses* a logical thought process BUT imo as a general rule in life, context is literally never not one of the most important parts of analyzing any situation.

Example with no context: A man walks up to you dressed as a pirate. "Yarr," he yarrs. Based on this information, you can deduce this man is dressed like a pirate.

Example with context 1: A man walks up to you dressed as a pirate. "Yarr," he yarrs. It is the year 1632. You are in Jamaica. Based on this information, you can reasonably assume this man is a pirate.

Example with context 2: A man walks up to you dressed as a pirate. "Yarr," he yarrs. It is the year 2020. You are in San Jose. Based on this information, you can reasonably assume this man is not a pirate (though he is a criminal for breaking the pandemic shelter law!!!!!!)


anyways yeah i didnt voice any opinions against it since i, like i said, was apathetic and also didnt want a no-lynch.

I'm curious to see if the same conclusion can be reached if literally everything in the game is taken into account

sorry yall im taking a sociology class but im getting big macrostructural vs. microinterpretive vibes from this whole argument.

Kermit you're too hard to read it's like reading a LSD invoked hallucination- I wake up after sleeping for 10 staright hours and you guys have posted so much holy crap

But yeah, I doubt Jester's actually a role in here on account that unless YOU are the jester, it's not a great role in anything. Besides, given he's trying to defend himself and post actual stuff now, certainly not, although I wouldn't rule him out for being scum or town. A lot of his early posts are quite memey, yes, but his second page of posts have um, slightly more to them. Which to say is that it's still confusing but that might just be Kermit

In terms of effort posts, Deamon's standing out as having a good amount of his posts either being lurky/crapposty, more so then boogie, so I don't see your point Dodd and Slam. Deamon gets town points for defending Poly which is certainly very town-y, but still (Are we past that argument???? Sorry me tired)

Goose hasn't said much even after him claiming VT, which at this point, while it's more valuable with less people, it's fair to say that there's definitely still power roles. Given how he's 'broken off' from the game and has been working though, I don't blame him. I'll like to see more from him, so I'm keeping my vote here rn

Kermit you're too hard to read it's like reading a LSD invoked hallucination

michael froese called out hard

I get it with the jester, y'all. I do. It was a wrong guess. I dunno how online mafia works because I don't play it outside of here. It was just a thought.

I said it above, let's go one of the three - frog, skull or goose. The last time I was in a game and everyone claimed VT but me, everyone was lying.

The more I think about it, if Kermit is a Miller, he's not useful because he's going to come up scum in any investigation anyway, and so if he IS scum, he gets a free ride. If he isn't, shitty, but then a vig doesn't waste a shot and nobody wastes investigations or anything.

I'm still side eying boogie but fenris is my strongest town read still just based on analysis and consistent thinking so I'm going to trust them, and my own (probably flimsy and wrong) logic above.

Please correct me if I'm super wrong, but I think this mitigates damage and maximizes night action, right?


Vote: kermit