Survival Of The Fittest

congrats on making it past 1000 posts boogie

its vibing hours. it's also spinning the wheels about Jace hours but that's not news.

dmboogie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:36 am i read all the posts and the words slip past my eyes like so much dust in the rain

maybe just because we've been talking about the same thing for so long

now watch as every single person involved in this fight turns out to be town

MethodicalSlacker wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:36 am congrats on making it past 1000 posts boogie

its vibing hours. it's also spinning the wheels about Jace hours but that's not news.

hey thanks

Yugikun wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:37 am now watch as every single person involved in this fight turns out to be town

MW wrote:Yeah, that's what's actually more normal in mafia in my experience. As far as I know, Star Wars Mafia was one of the few that went "/shrug all y'all are stormtroopers." It's the only thing that makes sense to me with the results, but...

Yugi's Survivor game also had something like that. With the advent officer flip, I'm willing to buy the idea that the VT role pm is basically generic, since 'Advent Officer' feels like a pretty generic townie role. Having multiple generic VT role PM's (or some VT role PM's that are generic and some that aren't), though, is much, much weirder to me. It's a possibility, but one that I'm skeptical of, especially given how scummy Yugi and Jace have both been from my perspective.

The only thing that throws a wrench in this analysis for me, right now, is that if Jace and Yugi are scum and are claiming ADVENT trooper, then that means either:

- scum don't have safeclaims for fluff
- scum's safeclaims list 'advent trooper,' in which case there probably are vt's who are legit advent troopers, which might salvage yugi's case a little
- scum have safeclaims but jace messed up and then yugi decided to commit to legititmizing jace's mistake

I mean that I can get with MS, because I never like Toben in this game and as soon as we get to day... 4? 5? And he's still alive I'm going to be SCREAMING FOR HIS BLOOD.

... But for right now, we can coexist as Toben is a useful source of conversation, for getting people to talk and making people crawl out of the woodwork and having him die too early could do more harm than good. But remember when we get far enough along and he's controlling the sway of EVERY conversation, there might wanna be some consideration into him.

Jesus christ I got stopped three times trying to post that. Maybe twice. Counting is hard.

Multiple VT roles is possible but it is a weird timeline for Jace to insist he's human, Yugi to provide the ADVENT cover and mention they have troopers without identifying it as a role, Jace to claim ADVENT Trooper right after, Fen to flip ADVENT Officer, and Yugi to clarify he is also a Trooper. There's a bunch of ADVENT soldier roles, and the Cactus flip tells us other Aliens are in play as power roles. If we have multiple VT fluffs it would seem more likely they're other ADVENT units, not mass troopers.

hey now, if you keep on railing at this then he's gonna stay alive regardless of his alignment bc scum's gonna get it into their heads to use the good ol' 'leave him alive deliberately so that he gets lynched' strat if he's town

@Toben

What's your read on Yugi if Jace flips town?

me wrote:The only thing that throws a wrench in this analysis for me, right now, is that if Jace and Yugi are scum and are claiming ADVENT trooper, then that means either:

- scum don't have safeclaims for fluff
- scum's safeclaims list 'advent trooper,' in which case there probably are vt's who are legit advent troopers, which might salvage yugi's case a little
- scum have safeclaims but jace messed up and then yugi decided to commit to legititmizing jace's mistake

Forgot to mention this, but the point I'm trying to make here is that all three of these possibilities seem kinda weird and wonky to me, but that second is the most likely. Then Paige went ahead and brought up another possibility. Oh well.

@peeps with lore knowledge: pls evaluate

Also for the record I'm very down to vote Jace (which... probably doesn't need stating given I've been on about this a while) but we have ~2.5 days and by my count are sitting on 5/7 votes (that's a meme number, right? Is that a meme number?) and I don't want us to screw up and pull the trigger early for no reason.

the google says that it is, which is news to me, as i've never heard of it before

@paige im one post behind you again >:C so im tying the score back up

slam is going to have a conniption and I fully understand and emphasize with him

Every time there's a complaint about too many posts I add ten posts to my quota

honestly if slam comes and murders me and paige and jace i feel like he's within his rights, i apologize on behalf of all of us, but i literally have no self-control

(also we're level agai--goddammit paige posted before i could post this one and i feel obnoxious abaout double-posting )