XCOM 2: War of the Chosen Mafia Game Thread

[Zetsu]

oh rip thtere were like 10 posts while i typed that one up, nevermind ;-;

[MK Kilmarnock]

Yes you're empirically wrong there Blizzard, but you MAY be right on the VT fuckery. Tis why I was leaning closer to Slam but I definitely do not want this day ending on a no-lynch, so we're all leaning Jace I suppose and we'll use his read to re-evaluate Yugi.

[Jace]

Scum play be fucking brazen on this site we're basically a soap opera

[Yugikun]

in fairness, I did try to hammer myself last game as town as well

[Jace]

If y'all think I'm dumb enough to do what Dodd literally did in front of me last game which I was actively there for as scum, y'all don't give me enough credit lol I'm not going for self preservation here I'm trying to do town a favor by taking away an easy out for scum in later phases. It's gonna be a mislynch, but this'll help keep you guys out of lylo in the coming phases.

[Jace]

Even if my case for killing me doesn't sell you guys, does anyone disagree that keeping me alive doesn't invite the risk of scum pivoting to me in later phases to throw attention off? bc you know as well as I do I'm gonna get killed eventually. For logic's sake do it. Unless you're scum of course. Then keep roadblocking my suicide efforts.

[Zetsu]

Self-hammering is a town move when there's no time left, it's a scum move when we got time.

Like, MW's gonna try to get on this thread tonight, he said so last night. We got 18 hours.

[Jace]

I think I used a double negative but you get the point, I'm not gonna rewrite that sentence.

[Jace]

MW already voted and made his case. Waiting for him is not necessary.

[Zetsu]

If y'all think I'm dumb enough to do what Dodd literally did in front of me last game which I was actively there for as scum, y'all don't give me enough credit lol I'm not going for self preservation here I'm trying to do town a favor by taking away an easy out for scum in later phases. It's gonna be a mislynch, but this'll help keep you guys out of lylo in the coming phases.

Self-hammering when there's time left is objectively good scum play, usually, as it denies town the ability to use the rest of the day phase to talk. It's only pro-town if by general consensus there's not much left to talk about. Your only mistake was that you weren't actually hammering

[BlizzardeyeWonder]

Reads?

MW is giving me *static noises* as a read, I want to be weary of him since he can kinda set himself as Someone To Listen To yeah? But this is a much more active game, so I don't worry about that as much right now. If things play out anything like Madoka Mafia, if he's town and survives long enough to start driving proceedings a bit, he's probably a prime target to get nightkilled. So I'm keeping an eye on him.

My current scumreads are a bit of an options thing. If Jace is scum, then I have a hard time believing Slam is also scum. But if Jace flips town, well, I don't have as solid a read of Slam (scummy but with doubts) because town sussing town isn't terribly statistically unlikely, but we aren't randomly shooting in the dark here. Whichever way Jace flips (if we do decide to lynch him but honestly it seems like somebody's gonna hammer him) I want to ISO Yugi next, who's someone I pin as having play that's sus regardless of how Jace flips.

We're one vote away from hammering, still? I guess if you more experienced folk all say scumplay on this site is brazen I have to take your word for it even though I don't like it because you all can't tell me what to do and that includes telling me to take $20 for hammering Jace.

[BlizzardeyeWonder]

and you guys really posted 10 times while i was writing that huh

[Jace]

If y'all think I'm dumb enough to do what Dodd literally did in front of me last game which I was actively there for as scum, y'all don't give me enough credit lol I'm not going for self preservation here I'm trying to do town a favor by taking away an easy out for scum in later phases. It's gonna be a mislynch, but this'll help keep you guys out of lylo in the coming phases.

Self-hammering when there's time left is objectively good scum play, usually, as it denies town the ability to use the rest of the day phase to talk. It's only pro-town if by general consensus there's not much left to talk about. Your only mistake was that you weren't actually hammering

I love how you're not even trying to hide the intentions anymore lol if It was a scum play how does it make sense to rescind the vote instead of, y'know, calling my bluff and pushing?? You wanted me lynched this entire phase and NOW you're backing off? Sure jan

[Jace]

This is a serious question and I invite anyone to answer as I have no specific point to make in asking. But what else is there to talk about in regards to whether or not to hammer me? And additionally, does anyone actually think not killing me benefits town in any way, town or not? I genuinely want to know because I'm not quite seeing it. Maybe bc I've been so busy aggressively pushing my own suicide.

[Zetsu]

We can make reads on other people before we hammer you.