Survival Of The Fittest

Ruggahissy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:05 pm I have more thoughts and such so I'm not saying for us to do anything specifically at the moment. I'm down to you and Bliz. I mean there's me as well, but if I'm scum there's little benefit to me clearing Boogie besides trying to get him to vote my way.

i mean, don't downplay the importance of that benefit, considering scum's win condition rn is two get two townies on their side

yeah, that makes sense and i trust that you're not bullshitting on flavor, just like. idk. either brackie did just happen to pick one of the less obviously evil characters as mafia and boogie's scum, you put together this whole thing as a defense for boogie to get him to side with you and you're scum, or blizzard is actually just the fucking godfather which seems totally impossible but like so does everything else so ? ? ? ? ?

Those are the options, ya.

So we have to figure out which one is most in line with what Brackie would do regarding two of those possibilities.

at this point i still think it's basically impossible that blizz is the godfather unless brackie didn't take a premade mafia setup at all, or at least modified an existing one (which i guess is possible since i really wasn't expecting a roleblocker) and really fucked up on balance. which is technically possible but still like. ugh i hate this because i find blizz definitely the most suspicious but it's still exceedingly unlikely that she's mafia so i feel like i have to put that thought away

with the evidence presented i'm kind of swinging toward thinking rugga might just be really talented scum. she's done a number of things to sway boogie to her side at this point, and it would probably be reasonably easy for her to sway blizz toward voting for me. i assume i'd be the target because i'm fairly certain boogie isn't gonna vote for blizz no matter what. rugga's evidence toward boogie being town does honestly check out in boogie's favor.

Counterpoint: I've been pretty hostile to Blizz and Blizz has been fairly low-key hostile to me (which I can detail after lunch) so if I'm working to get her vote right now I'm sucking.

in fairness i think if you and boogie are both agreed she'll probably vote. if she doesn't we'll have a no-vote and if we have a no-vote blizz will most likely be dead by tomorrow anyway at which point you and boogie can just lynch me anyway, so either way it works out the same.

Mmmmmmm I had not considered a no Vote situation. Would that be preferable? It would leave two townies in the next day and we would no for certain which of us right now is telling the truth

*know for certain

Ruggahissy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:25 am Mmmmmmm I had not considered a no Vote situation. Would that be preferable? It would leave two townies in the next day and we would no for certain which of us right now is telling the truth

not sure i like this idea - it'll just let scum control the narrative by deciding who gets validated posthumously

i dunno man. idk how much that would help. @blizz, i know it's ur thanksgiving (happy thanksgiving??? i didnt even know canada had thanksgiving lmfao) so i get that u might not have time but ur kind of crucial right now. i've gotta give ur read on boogie a proper uh read and then i'll talk about That

im not sure i know what boogie means but i generally agree that stalling another night isn't going to do much for us, like i said at the start of the phase, mainly because mafia will probably kill blizz and we'll be back where we are now.

Fenris wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:45 am im not sure i know what boogie means but i generally agree that stalling another night isn't going to do much for us, like i said at the start of the phase, mainly because mafia will probably kill blizz and we'll be back where we are now.

im just saying that if we let mafia kill again, we're letting them direct the way the conversation goes

maybe they decide they'd rather kill me and keep blizz alive. this gives town less information than they'd get if you or rugga died, and since blizz is still alive that means there's gonna be "okay for real though is blizz the godfather??????" talk, and maybe at that point scum'd be able to ride that into a blizzard execution

or maybe scum just kills me or the other townie because we're more active than blizzard

idk, any info we get from the person that dies would be tainted by scum choosing to kill that person? is what im saying i think?

that makes a lot of sense yeah. i've been riding on the assumption up until now that mafia would just kill blizz but at this point they might choose not to just to confuse things more. either way its gonna be a mess.

we’re getting close to a ZERO ESCAPE: ZERO TIME DIEMMA, SEQUEL TO VIRTUE’S LAST REWARD and im not happy about it

i don’t want to play the decision game :(