Relationship Thread 2: This Time It's Personal

[RetroVenus]

Ashton Bishop is no more, and Kelly Hutchins has transformed into Adam Lader, thus it's time for a new

~*~RELATIONSHIP THREAD~*~

Adam Lader may be many things – athletic, intelligent (though he never applies himself), charismatic – but patient is not one of them. His numerous good qualities have made him quite the popular young man, and indeed, he is quite likeable. However, there are those his charm has not worked on, those who cannot gloss over his equally numerous bad traits – his complete lack of discipline, his empathy issues, his pompous attitude.

Adam is on the track team as a long distance runner. Rare is the day he actually shows up to a meeting, though. The only reason he joined was so that he could eat as much candy as he wants without getting fat. His real main hobby is dating. Most of his relationships are simply a one-off fling; hook up, go on a date or two, dump, rinse and repeat. Rare is the day he has a more serious relationship. Those tend to have an impact on Adam, as he'll either loathe the person who broke up with him or attempt to get back together.

Adam has an overall gender nonconforming appearance, though he identifies as male through and through. Sexuality wise, he identifies as pansexual. He's also something of a bully, in that loves riling people up.

[+] Adam relationships

Dawn Montogomery - Tried flirting with her in the past in order to make Ethan jealous. It...didn't exactly work.
Derek Caldwell - Due to dabbling in the goth subculture, the two have exchanged words, though not much else.
Lillian "Lily" Larsen - The two have gone on exactly one date, which Adam called off since he could see that she wasn't having a great time. See, isn't he a nice guy?
Ellis Wheaton - Oh, Ellis. Such an easy target for bullying; no wonder Adam's so smitten with him. Too bad he doesn't swing that way. Or thinks he's a bully, but that just adds to his charm.
Marshall West - Thinks he needs to get that stick out of his ass. It's fun to piss him off, though.

What does Adam want?
- Fellow track members to be fake friends with, even if he hardly shows up.
- Adam respects those who are similar to him personality wise, or at least those who also know how to find someone's weak spots for manipulation. These people are the most likely to be his genuine friend.
- By contrast, Adam holds disdain for those who are interested in people he has seriously dated, assuming he doesn't despise said person.
- For an oddly specific request, I'd like for him to be close friends with someone like him, but because said person has shown interest (but not yet dated) in someone Adam has dated, Adam is secretly trying to ruin the friendship.
- Adam's been on a lot of dates. He may even have done the deed with a kid or two.

So yeah, if you wanna have any last-minute relationships with Adam, feel free to post!

[Fiori]

Hey, can see Lily and Adam going out on a date whilst they were both dabbling in goth fashion, but imagine it wouldn't last long beyond that since their personalities don't mash well.

[RetroVenus]

Hey, can see Lily and Adam going out on a date whilst they were both dabbling in goth fashion, but imagine it wouldn't last long beyond that since their personalities don't mash well.

Heya! I could definitely see Lily and Adam dating for a short while! Maybe their relationship lasted for a single date? With Adam calling it off, as he could see that she wasn't comfortable. What a nice guy*!

*he only called it off so that he could end the relationship on his terms, not hers

[Fiori]

Sounds good to me.

[RetroVenus]

Alright then! Will update the relationships when I get a chance.

[ViolentMedic]

I might have a couple of things for you.

Marshall is the current captain of track team, and although I think it's a winter sport and thus might not have gotten going yet, both before captaincy and ESPECIALLY after Marshall would be on Adam's case about his lack of dedication to track team (or anything else.) Marshall is, in general, VERY easy to rile up.

Molly, meanwhile, if Adam is surface-level likeable, could have been a potential date in the past. How far is negotiable, except that she would never have put out (she is a good Catholic lass despite her rampant dating) and would, if he took too long to do the dumping, have likely dumped him as casually as possible. (Drama is not her thing.) She would be chill about the break-up, but if Adam got weird about it she would discreetly try to avoid him.

[RetroVenus]

I may have let this slide. Mayhaps.

Anyway,

Marshall is the current captain of track team, and although I think it's a winter sport and thus might not have gotten going yet, both before captaincy and ESPECIALLY after Marshall would be on Adam's case about his lack of dedication to track team (or anything else.) Marshall is, in general, VERY easy to rile up.

Man I love the idea of this. I feel like Adam would put on a big spectacle of showing up to a track meet specifically to rile Marshall up. I am SO here for this potential hateship.

Molly, meanwhile, if Adam is surface-level likeable, could have been a potential date in the past. How far is negotiable, except that she would never have put out (she is a good Catholic lass despite her rampant dating) and would, if he took too long to do the dumping, have likely dumped him as casually as possible. (Drama is not her thing.) She would be chill about the break-up, but if Adam got weird about it she would discreetly try to avoid him.

Adam knows how to play nice whenever he wants people to like him, so I can see them dating! I would say they've been on a handful of dates? Unless Adam is 100% infatuated with them, he tends to break up with people just as quickly as he gets together with them (something he and Molly have in common!), so he might be the one to dump first. How weird he'd be about the break-up would depend on who did the dumping: If it was Adam (or both at the same time), the all's well. If it was Molly, then yeah, he's gonna be weird about it.

As an aside, for as much as a dickhead Adam is, even he won't coerce someone into doing the do if they weren't completely okay with it. Dude's got some standards however little they are.

[ViolentMedic]

Things slide sometimes, all good!

Hatred Established(TM).

As for Molly:

Adam knows how to play nice whenever he wants people to like him, so I can see them dating! I would say they've been on a handful of dates? Unless Adam is 100% infatuated with them, he tends to break up with people just as quickly as he gets together with them (something he and Molly have in common!), so he might be the one to dump first. How weird he'd be about the break-up would depend on who did the dumping: If it was Adam (or both at the same time), the all's well. If it was Molly, then yeah, he's gonna be weird about it.

As an aside, for as much as a dickhead Adam is, even he won't coerce someone into doing the do if they weren't completely okay with it. Dude's got some standards however little they are.

So on the latter note, even if Adam's chill about like clear discomfort with getting too intimate, the initial push for it is one of those things that's likely to get Molly to start a breakup not long after just to, like, avoid the awkwardness of someone getting pushy (whether they would or not). Because why communicate when you can just say 'it's not you it's me, bye' and just quickly run off?

In a more general way, I'm good with either of them doing the dumping but am slightly biased towards Molly doing the dumping, just because the drama of pissed off exes on murder island is always fun. xD Could have been the aformentioned reason, could just have been Molly getting distracted really fast. But if you're not down with that, same time or Adam doing the dumping is fine (and Molly will be functionally fine with that, she's not the sort to linger. That requires, well, drama. xD)

[RetroVenus]

Thank youuu ;~;

Hatred Established(TM).

Yes.

So on the latter note, even if Adam's chill about like clear discomfort with getting too intimate, the initial push for it is one of those things that's likely to get Molly to start a breakup not long after just to, like, avoid the awkwardness of someone getting pushy (whether they would or not). Because why communicate when you can just say 'it's not you it's me, bye' and just quickly run off?

In a more general way, I'm good with either of them doing the dumping but am slightly biased towards Molly doing the dumping, just because the drama of pissed off exes on murder island is always fun. xD Could have been the aformentioned reason, could just have been Molly getting distracted really fast. But if you're not down with that, same time or Adam doing the dumping is fine (and Molly will be functionally fine with that, she's not the sort to linger. That requires, well, drama. xD)

Ah, I getcha, murder island drama is always fun. At least I think it is; I've only written one other kid over on Mini, and he didn't have any in-game exes, so there's a first for everything!

So yeah, Molly can be the one to dump, that's fine by me! I can see Adam bringing up the idea of being more intimate causally, and while he's not pushy about that, he's pushy about other things, so it would make sense for Molly to come to that conclusion. And while Adam's usually quick on the draw when it comes to dumping, Molly can definitely get the drop on him if it comes out of the blue.

Though boy oh boy Adam's gonna be pissed. Adam's gotta be the one in control over where his relationships go, especially in terms of how the end. Molly ending the relationship on her terms is, to Adam, the same as taking power away from him. He knows how to act civil in public, but it'll be pretty obvious that he's not happy with her (thus she'd probably discreetly avoid him XD).

[Dr Adjective]

Third thread today on my last minute planning kick! Imagine doing work at work, couldn't be me!

I'm not entirely sure of the dynamic, but I can picture Adam having dated Bethany at some point? I can't imagine it going all that well though, she gets on his case about being a layabout and finds his interest in other boys gross, and he wants something much less serious than she's after, possibly wants sex far earlier than she's willing too oblige also? If so to all of the above, she's definitely not interested in a repeat performance in the event that he is, and would be more than happy to be in mutual loathing otherwise.
Then again, they could both get along well platonically too, potentially? I dunno here.

Evie probably just thinks he's gross, especially if he ever tried to date her, but even if not tbh.

[RetroVenus]

I initially read "Imagine doing work at work" as "Imagine doing work" and was like "lmao same".

I'm not entirely sure of the dynamic, but I can picture Adam having dated Bethany at some point? I can't imagine it going all that well though, she gets on his case about being a layabout and finds his interest in other boys gross, and he wants something much less serious than she's after, possibly wants sex far earlier than she's willing too oblige also? If so to all of the above, she's definitely not interested in a repeat performance in the event that he is, and would be more than happy to be in mutual loathing otherwise.
Then again, they could both get along well platonically too, potentially? I dunno here.

I could see them dating! Adam's willing to dating anyone and everyone, so he'd be down with dating Bethany. That said, he definitely would want to end the relationship as soon as it started for the aforementioned reasons. Like, he wouldn't be offended that Bethany gets on his case and has issues with his pansexuality, but it'd lower his attraction to her? Luckily he never really goes for a repeat performance.
Though I will say that, unless Bethany is the one to call things off, Adam wouldn't loathe her. Dislike definitely, but loathe is a little to strong a word. It'd be more like "strong apathy".

Evie probably just thinks he's gross, especially if he ever tried to date her, but even if not tbh.

Adam's surface level likeable, but it's fairly easy to see past that, so Evie probably would think he's gross! Not sure if he'd try to date her, since while he'd date anyone and everyone, he's also vaguely intimidated by people taller than him.

[Cicada]

Something interesting I propose:

Ash would not like Adam from the get. Adam's smart and athletic but lazy and wastes it in her eyes, particularly in a way where his tendencies are impacting one of her precious babies: a JEM sports team. She also (hypocritically) thinks he's a bully. Shit list, she doesn't like him, and she's immune to his charming nature by dint of being socially hyperaware of people who have red flags like he does so she'll pretty much just tell him to git gud or get lost whenever they're forced to talk to one another.

Now Salem on the other hand, Spiderman pointing at Spiderman, right down to them both scheming to be sugar babies when they graduate. Since they both adopted their more NB/femme presentation to flip the finger at haters, and are charismatic-ish folks who play with other's affections, and do things their own way I imagine they'd have a lot in common and be chummy from the get. Salem would wingman for his boy when he's trying to get casual dates, so on. At some point I imagine Salem would want to experiment and figure out his position on the Kinsey scale, so like. If Adam was that person? Since they'd get along fairly well/were similar people, I imagine the relationship could take a veneer of seriousness up until Salem is positive he only likes girls and cheerfully breaks it off. We'd have to hash out the specifics but I feel Salem is good enough at fronting that Adam might be led pretty far into thinking it's the real deal? So bad break up for him, salt, and now that bitch from cheerleading is dating him instead.

Long story short I think they'd all dislike each other in the above case, with Salem being surface level amicable but behind his own façade pitying Adam for being a sour loser about it.

[RetroVenus]

Ash would not like Adam from the get. Adam's smart and athletic but lazy and wastes it in her eyes, particularly in a way where his tendencies are impacting one of her precious babies: a JEM sports team. She also (hypocritically) thinks he's a bully. Shit list, she doesn't like him, and she's immune to his charming nature by dint of being socially hyperaware of people who have red flags like he does so she'll pretty much just tell him to git gud or get lost whenever they're forced to talk to one another.

Eyy another person to hate Adam! I think Adam would go out of his way to discreetly avoid Ash. Like yeah, he tries to be sociable with everyone, but he knows when to call a spade a spade and recognize when someone would rather maul him that make polite talk. That said, I don't think Adam would actively dislike her? His thought process is just "what an annoying bitch, but whatever" and then move on.

Now Salem on the other hand, Spiderman pointing at Spiderman, right down to them both scheming to be sugar babies when they graduate. Since they both adopted their more NB/femme presentation to flip the finger at haters, and are charismatic-ish folks who play with other's affections, and do things their own way I imagine they'd have a lot in common and be chummy from the get. Salem would wingman for his boy when he's trying to get casual dates, so on. At some point I imagine Salem would want to experiment and figure out his position on the Kinsey scale, so like. If Adam was that person? Since they'd get along fairly well/were similar people, I imagine the relationship could take a veneer of seriousness up until Salem is positive he only likes girls and cheerfully breaks it off. We'd have to hash out the specifics but I feel Salem is good enough at fronting that Adam might be led pretty far into thinking it's the real deal? So bad break up for him, salt, and now that bitch from cheerleading is dating him instead.

Long story short I think they'd all dislike each other in the above case, with Salem being surface level amicable but behind his own façade pitying Adam for being a sour loser about it.

Oh jeez, if Salem and Adam somewhat seriously dated and Salem broke it off, forget his beef with Molly, Salem would become Public Enemy Number One. Fuck dude, Adam actually trusted you!

But yeah, from the looks of it Adam and Salem have a lot in common, so Salem would be one of the few people Adam would actually trust. And if Salem wanted to date, well then, he's not one to say no. I'm fine with hashing out the specifics, but Adam wouldn't even try to act civil with him afterwards. The salt would be real strong.

In addition to hashing out the details for how the break up went down, I'd have to check in with you on the relationship itself. When Adam gets in a serious relationship, he gets really attached to that person. Like, maybe too attached. Gotta know what would/would not be okay with both you and Salem.

[Dr Adjective]

I could see them dating! Adam's willing to dating anyone and everyone, so he'd be down with dating Bethany. That said, he definitely would want to end the relationship as soon as it started for the aforementioned reasons. Like, he wouldn't be offended that Bethany gets on his case and has issues with his pansexuality, but it'd lower his attraction to her? Luckily he never really goes for a repeat performance.
Though I will say that, unless Bethany is the one to call things off, Adam wouldn't loathe her. Dislike definitely, but loathe is a little to strong a word. It'd be more like "strong apathy".

All sounds good, I think I like the version where Beth breaks up with him best. Probably in large part because her parents disapprove, which she probably wouldn’t actually have mentioned, but… yeah. I like the idea of her having another enemy but having it not be directly because of her attitudes for once!

Adam's surface level likeable, but it's fairly easy to see past that, so Evie probably would think he's gross! Not sure if he'd try to date her, since while he'd date anyone and everyone, he's also vaguely intimidated by people taller than him.

Possible revision: even though she wouldn’t strictly have been interested, mild self-consciousness that this guy has a reputation but never made a move on her, oh no is she that unattractive? Evie does high-key crave validation after all…

[RetroVenus]

All sounds good, I think I like the version where Beth breaks up with him best. Probably in large part because her parents disapprove, which she probably wouldn’t actually have mentioned, but… yeah. I like the idea of her having another enemy but having it not be directly because of her attitudes for once!

Sure, Beth can be the one to break up with Adam! Though admittedly her attitudes would come into play even though they're not the direct cause of his dislike. It's like, you know when you're annoyed at someone for one specific thing but everything they do is now annoying to you? It'd be like that.

Possible revision: even though she wouldn’t strictly have been interested, mild self-consciousness that this guy has a reputation but never made a move on her, oh no is she that unattractive? Evie does high-key crave validation after all…

Ha! On Adam's side, he'd either not notice or (more likely) not care. Honestly, depending on how obviously she craves validation, he might even tease her for it, the douchebag.